Money Quote

Obama’s coming to Michigan today! No, not Detroit, sillies. Obama doesn’t visit the D. He’s going to Holland to celebrate JOBS.

The purpose of the trip is to highlight the “success” of the President’s $862 billion economic stimulus package which the White House claimed yesterday has already “saved or created” 3 million jobs. Specifically, this factory is being subsidized by $151 million of stimulus funds from an even larger $2 billion honey pot of stimulus money set aside for electric car battery investments. This one plant is expected to employ 300 workers. That works out to more than $500,000 per job created. $500,000 per job.

Wow. I mean, that … sucks.

The issue is, “Why is this any of the government’s business?” We used to be a capitalist country. We’re supposed to have vibrant capital markets that make these decisions using market principles. Instead we have the Obama administration acting as a venture capital fund picking winners and losers not based on economics, but on political priorities (in this case global warming).

Yea, but Obama’s the smartest man EVA, and why don’t you just STFU and grab a mop. We don’t need to hear from any of you folks that caused this mess. Except all those folks who caused the mess and are part of the Democratic party. They can keep on with the Par-tay!

Businesses are not investing because of the vast economic uncertainties the Obama administration is creating.

Will secured creditor contracts be honored in court? Or will the Obama administration rip up those contracts? How much does it cost to hire a new employee? No one will know until thousands of pages of Obamacare regulations emanate from the IRS and HHS. How much will energy cost? That depends on how draconian the Obama EPA global warming regulations are. What are the rules for financial markets? You better have the cash for an army of good lawyers, because the 2,300-page Dodd-Frank bill touches every aspect of financial markets and requires 243 new rule-makings by 11 different federal agencies.</blockquote

Bla bla bla.

The real reason the economy isn't recovering? Negativity.

It’s psychology, stupid. Not since World War II has an economic recovery been so hobbled by poor confidence.

Stop being so negative! So WHAT if you don’t have a job and your house has lost half it’s value! Big deal that your taxes are going up next year and you’re health plan is probably going to be outlawed!

300 jobs in Michigan. Focus on the positive.

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27 Comments on “Money Quote”

  1. Bob Says:

    He saved us from plunging into a depression. He will go down in history as one of the greatest ever. He brought a big shovel to the Bush shitfest and started swinging it. Still plenty more to dig out but no question he’s an American Hero for saving the economy.

  2. Car in Says:

    We are in a depression. WTF are you talking about? and he threw a ton of money into a big black hole that we’ll be paying back forever.

  3. Bob Says:

    Technically not a depression.

  4. agiledog Says:

    So you wait until the blog owner is effectively off-line to come back and start in again? Nice. Real nice.

    When you lay down, do cats try to bury you?

  5. Kirby Says:

    AD – to be fair, Bob commented before Carin’s internet went down except for the last comment which was made only hours after her dish was struck and before Bob or you knew she was down.

  6. agiledog Says:

    Technically not a depression

    Devastating. Truely devastating. That one technical point invalidates all her arguements and completely undermines her position.

    Not!

    Tripling the maximum debt of George Bush in his first year, spending 800+ billion to keep unemployment under 8.5% when it went over 10%, destroying the legal rights of the bond/stock holders of two major automakers, and socializing the best medical system of the world, which will make it as crappy as the UK’s. “Greatest ever”? He’s making carter look smart.

  7. agiledog Says:

    I don’t care about “fair” with Bob, Kirby.

    Hey, Bob! Have you threatened to load up anybody else’s grandmother with C4 recently? Or stole somebody’s photo of a celebrity and posted it on your website claiming it was a picture of you again?

    Liar. Cheater. You do not deserve to be allowed into public.


  8. spending 800+ billion to keep unemployment under 8.5% when it went over 10%

    Its worse than that. Unemployment in Lapeer County, where our host lives, is 17.7%…which certainly takes on the characteristics of a depression when it has been elevated for over a year.

    http://www.bestplaces.net/city/Mayfield_township_(Lapeer_county)-Michigan.aspx

    He brought a big shovel to the Bush shitfest Obama economy and started swinging it, and hitting the American people in the face with it. Still plenty more to dig out shit to shovel, what with a phony measure of “jobs saved or created” and millions in stimulus money being watched like a hawk by Sherriff Slo-Joe Biden as they are paid into projects in non-existent congressional districts all across the country, but no question he’s an American Hero asshole for saving the economy for achieving his wet dream goal of wealth redistributon spending so irresponsibly that not only will my generation die toiling away to pay for the “unprecidented” and “historic” government expansion, but he has also managed to create a situation where my children will have their options severely limited as they work to pay for a government that aims to fulfill functions that were expressly kept from it in order to prevent such economic and political slavery.

    FIFY

  9. Kirby Says:

    AD – not sure if your were first last time, but you did sling shit first this time.. called him a cat turd in your first comment to him… BTW – Bob has been a commentor and friend of Carin’s for several years now – they go back and forth arguing but never name calling. If you’d like, I can pull some conversations from her archives that prove this point. SO… .how about we all try playing nice?

  10. Kirby Says:

    Oh… don’t know O.C….. who the heck is she?

  11. agiledog Says:

    Read my comment again, Kirby, specifically this line:

    I don’t care about “fair” with Bob, Kirby.</em"

    He has proven himself to be a piece of trash. He does not merit either fairness or civility from me.

    If you’d like, I can pull some conversations from her archives that prove this point.

    And while you’re at it, make sure you pull up the parts where he accuses my wife (who has NEVER commented here) of being a slut, and being into sex with dogs. Go ahead, Kirby, defend that creep. You only soil yourself by association with him.

  12. agiledog Says:

    Oh… don’t know O.C….. who the heck is she?

    Are you really claiming you don’t know who Ocean Cat is? Really? Seriously?

  13. agiledog Says:

    Still waiting, Kirby. Having fun reading through all the vile crap Bob spewed on the old blog?

    I’d like to see the comments that prove Bob has been a “friend” of Car in’s for several years now. I question your definition of “friend”.

  14. Kirby Says:

    After you accused me of lying (in re OC) I have decided to go back to not responding to you… after all you know ALL and nothing I say is of any merit to you.

    BTW – I don’t lie – never have – neither Carin or I have any idea who O.C. is, but we suspect she wandered here from a friend of Carin’s (not Bob). And it is true Bob and Carin have been friends and commented on each other blogs flaming each other’s political views and points for at least 5 years now.

    I thought we were letting the big ado of a few months go – nasty was spouted from both sides and nothing to be gained to continue it now.

  15. agiledog Says:

    Still waiting, Kirby. Where are the comments that shows Bob has been a friend of Carin for years?

    You accuse me of lying because I asked you a serious question? Typical liberal. You have no actual facts to support your outlandish claims and ideas, so you resort to name calling and storm off in a huff.

    When it comes to politics and debate, you are an unserious person, Kirby. Here are some crayons and a coloring book – now leave the adults alone to discuss things.

  16. wiserbud Says:

    Oh, AD…. I do so find your optimism refreshing.

    You still expect a liberal to back up their own statements with facts?

    It is to laugh.

  17. agiledog Says:

    You still expect a liberal to back up their own statements with facts?

    Adults, yes. Liberals, not so much.

  18. wiserbud Says:

    Adults, yes. Liberals, not so much.

    Well, that’s yer problem right there.

    Liberals are stunted adolescents who only care about feelings. Reality is merely a state-of-mind, man!

    And they have become so used to lying to themselves, that it is really not that much more difficult for them to lie to everyone else.

  19. Kirby Says:

    AD you are really too much – you are spinning my comment that Carin and Bob have been internet friends for years into a a “lie” … you have got to be kidding me – you search her archives, I don’t have time and I know the conversations are there – since I’ve was there then.

    BTW – who is acting childish? I didn’t call you names, yet once again you and WB have resorted to besmirching and name calling – why would I would care to converse with such?

    Perhaps I should ask Carin about her “rules” No “tea-bagger” but anything else goes?

  20. wiserbud Says:

    BTW – who is acting childish? I didn’t call you names, yet once again you and WB have resorted to besmirching and name calling – why would I would care to converse with such?

    Name calling? Where?

    Besmirching? Well, if calling a spade a spade is now considered “besmirching”, I guess I’m guilty.

    Tell you what, kirby. I will retract my remarks if you can show me just one example of the application of liberal policies being successful.

    Just one.

    Perhaps I should ask Carin about her “rules” No “tea-bagger” but anything else goes?

    So, by your definition, calling someone a “liberal” is as vile an insult as labeling someone with whom you disagree by some vile and perverted sexual act.

    I guess I have to agree with you here. Honestly, I would rather someone call me a “teabagger” than a “liberal.”

    {{{{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}}}}

  21. Kirby Says:

    Pay attention WB – conversation wasn’t about politics this time – it was about if or not Carin and Bob were internet buds with an amiable relationship (before this)…. somehow you and AD made it political and started the ugly (again)… Why?

    And thank God I’m a liberal and not a teabagger.

  22. agiledog Says:

    First you say:

    Bob has been a commentor and friend of Carin’s for several years now – they go back and forth arguing but never name calling. If you’d like, I can pull some conversations from her archives that prove this point.

    And now you say:

    AD you are really too much – you are spinning my comment that Carin and Bob have been internet friends for years into a a “lie” … you have got to be kidding me – you search her archives, I don’t have time

    You just contradicted yourself there, Kirby. Which claim about your time is the lie? Do you have the time to prove your point, or don’t you?

    And everybody who spends time online knows there is a major difference between “friend” and “internet friend” (or is it “internet buds”?)- you’re changing your claim AGAIN.

    You are a liar.

  23. wiserbud Says:

    And thank God I’m a liberal and not a teabagger.

    Wait… can a liberal actually thank God?

    To be honest, if you are to stand as representative of anything at all, I’m also glad it’s a liberal and not a “tea-bagger”

    I still find it funny how when you see liberal, you so easily reply with “tea-bagger” As if they are both equally vile in terms of being descriptors. Can’t say I disagree there either.

    And (now pay very close attention here, kirby, this may get a little difficult for you…) Bob has been caught out numerous times telling exaggerations and flat-out lies. When asked for support of his pronouncements, he disappears. That’s fine. Until he returns, totally ignoring the fact that he, once again, got caught in a lie, and proceeds to lie again. Then, again, disappear when called out.

    AD and I have seen this act repeatedly and it is always liberals who do this. Always. They cannot support their lies, so they run away when challenged. Or, in your case, they simply ignore the questions they are asked and attempt to control the conversation.

    See, it’s a funny thing about conversations. They evolve. While you may want everything to stay in it’s own little compartment, everything is related. Someone’s behavior is a huge indicator of their character, and by extension, their politics. I would not expect Bob to lie and run away if he were a conservative. Conservatives do not do that. I would also not expect people to repeatedly have to run to his defense if he were a conservative, because he wouldn’t need it.

    I hope that clears things up a bit for you.

  24. wiserbud Says:

    By the way…

    it was about if or not Carin and Bob were internet buds with an amiable relationship (before this)

    I also consider myself a friend of Carin’s. And I would never say the vile, disgusting things I’ve seen Bob say about her, nor would I ignore her requests for a certain standard of behavior on her blog.

    You want to know why she moved to WordPress? Because her “friend” Bob made it impossible to continue at her old place, because he refused to stop acting like a complete and total ass. Does this sound like Bob is Carin’s “friend” to you?

    You have a very strange definition of “friend.”

  25. Kirby Says:

    Wiserpud – guess you know my sister so much better than I… why don’t you tell me all about her…

  26. wiserbud Says:

    Wiserpud – guess you know my sister so much better than I… why don’t you tell me all about her…

    Has nothing to do with knowing her better.

    Has to do with using my powers of observation, as well as the many conversations Carin and I have had elsewhere on this very topic, as opposed to trying to spin reality to defend an indefensible assertion.

    Why don’t you tell me why you think she moved her blog to WordPress?

    (*snicker….”wiserpud”… how precious.)


  27. If Kirby insists on calling us teabaggers, the detriment is to her, not me. Much like the focus on the claim of racism, it is an indication of a debate conceded before it is begun.

    I accept your concession Kirby. Very magnanimous of you.

    >(*snicker….”wiserpud”… how precious.)<

    Wiser, she got an "A" for that at the Keef Olbermann School of Debate. She's very proud of her work.


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